14:1-4; Ezek. 2034 may be the next 1975, because it will be 120 years since 1914, in the book of Genesis, Jehovah shortens man's life to 120 years. Then I read an interesting thing about the Adventists. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' beliefs, Is the Watchtower Predicting The End By 2034 Through Subtle Hints? Let us consider each of these in turn. Publication download options In a similar way, Christ's presence includes the events leading up to and including the great tribulation. ^ par. The OT junk about God bringing mass slaughter was just to make the Israelites feel good about themselves and their volcano god. I'm the guy for the job! Yes, the survivors will be absolutely right when they proclaim, "Jehovah God, the Almighty, true and righteous are your judicial decisions."Rev. Songez ce qu'il signifiait : plus que 120 ans et Jhovah allait amener" un dluge d'eau sur la terre, pour ravager de dessous les cieux toute chair dans laquelle la force de vie est en action" - Gense 6:17 7 () Et nous ? I doubt they'll come out with a specific date in the near future. The 'end' did not come. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son's words in a relatively short time." Other Jehovah's Witnesses presidents included Nathan H. Knorr (1942-1977), Fredrick W. Franz (1977-1992), and Milton G. Henschel (1992-2000). Moreover, the need to revise our understanding somewhat does not make us false prophets or change the fact that we are living in "the last days," soon to experience the "great tribulation" that will pave the way for the earthly Paradise. 15. (December 15, 1896, page 306) The Watchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah's spirit "does not mean those now serving as Jehovah's witnesses are inspired. You know how to tell when summer is near. (Job 38:22, 23; Ezek. (Rev. some new 'prophet' will need to come forward from among them! Remember they are inspired but not directed by the active force. But Scott Terry, a former Jehovah's Witness for 14 years and author of Cowboys, Armageddon, and The Truth: How a Gay Child Was Saved from Religion, believes that a widespread apathy towards door . http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/succeed_fail1.html. This explains how Witnesses, even in western countries, were able to demonstrate significant increases in the 1980s and early 1990s. 5 Jehovahs people have long awaited Armageddon. Will the Witnesses have a turn-around just as they did in the early 1970s? For example, by the waters of Megiddo, God helped Israelite Judge Barak defeat a Canaanite army led by a chief named Sisera. 7:14) How will we know when that tribulation is about to begin? Two portions of scripture were relied upon heavily as prophetic proof-texts that Armageddon was imminent. The 2034 date is thoroughly refuted by the numbers in the Insight book. From these also turn away (vv. You will see a gradual emphasis of this until the mid-to-late 2020s when they will go completely nuts with it like they did in 1914, 1915, 1925, 1975. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.' We should have confidence in the channel God is using . by slimboyfat Yep just as they said Moses screwed up too, only they failed to point out that he was condemed to not see the Promised Land. After 15 years of dwindling committment levels in first world countries (where the donations come from), I firmly believe the WT leadership is aware of the problem. They're probably waiting for some newsworthy event to take place and they'll call it a "sign". There you have two lines of evidence that support the same conclusion. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his "slave" to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. Therefore the great climax has been reached. It's obvious to me that leadership needs to fire up the members in some way. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/61661/1.ashx. (Jas. From what I've read in the forum, the doctrine change has been a fairly stealthy one and hasn't fully registered in the consciousness of the rank and file (especially with the WTS still shouting the "end is near! 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. Nothing is said about God bringing a genocide. Jehovah's Witnesses are more convinced than ever before that the end of the world is imminent. *** Reference Bible Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ***, 20 "'However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. Jehovah's Witness 'ordered to renounce faith and join Russian army' Europe. Because to be known by him can mean having Gods approval. If they keep going the way they do, I see a slow death by a thousand cuts. *** w79 7/1 p. 29 How Jehovah Guides His People ***17 However, during these "last days," have erroneous views about this system's end or telos (Greek) been held in advance by some of Jehovah's servants? What is the scarlet-colored wild beast, and how is it involved in the outworking of Gods will concerning Babylon the Great? (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? The December 15, 2003 Watchtower article is paralleling Noah's day to our present day. (Read Matthew 24:37-39.) Note: The tribes of Dan and Ephraim are not included in this list because Dan was guilty of idolatry at Leviticus 24:11; Judges 18:1, 30; and 1 Kings 12:28-30 and Ephraim guilty of idolatry at Hosea 4:17 and Judges 17. 13 The attack of Gog. 1879 was the start of The Watchtower and 1999 was 120 years later. (Prov. After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld,' says the apostle Paul, '[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household.' Tribulation has fallen upon those who stand by the Lord. What does it mean to obey the good news about our Lord Jesus? If the latter - then they are going to have some problems in giving incentives for making people stay until the new prediction is made. More important, imagine how profoundly happy you will be when Gods name and sovereignty have been fully vindicated! For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. The group took on the name International Bible Students Association and by 1914 it . by slimboyfat Despite our trials, how can we remain faithful as Armageddon draws near? and the award for longest subject title for a thread goes to What about 1931+120? They knew that they had made a mistake about 1975, but at the same time they knew that the generation was fast running out in any case and that the end must come within a couple of decades at the most. 2, p. 98-99, 1889), 1908 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A. D. To suggest that this text has a primary prophetic focus in modern times reflects a gross distortion of this passage. Amber Scorah writes about exiting the Jehovah's Witnesses in Leaving the Witness. We must, therefore, insist that the Scriptures do not teach that Armageddon is a carnal conflict that is a precursor to the end of earths history. In my opinion, there are 2 ways they can go: 1 - Mainstream - drop shunning, make blood conscious matter, focus less on field service and more on community projects (sort of like the LDS), turn Bethel into the JW version of BYU, push getting a good education instead of vilifying college, etc. *** Awake! A replacement for Freddy is still awaited. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/65453/1/Comments-You-Will-Not-Hear-at-the-1-25-04-WT-Study. . Those events occurred over many decades. 12. (b)Why will this be a dangerous lie? A plane carrying five Jehovah's Witness ministers crashed Saturday, killing all aboard, officials said. 71 PICTURE DESCRIPTION: Dramatic events occur around us. In December, the 2021 Governing Body Update #10 announced that 25,658 Jehovahs Witnesses have died due to Covid 19. They will make more and more grave statements about the end being near, but these won't do the trick either because they will contain nothing specific. There is no comparison! 85 PICTURE DESCRIPTION: Policemen get ready to force their way into the home of a Christian family who trust that Jesus and his angels are aware of what is happening. At 1Thessalonians 5:2, Jehovahs day refers to the great tribulation. (Rev. (b)According to Ezekiel 38:2, 8, 9, what will bring Gog to the symbolic place called Armageddon? 1-5). (Rev. At the headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah's Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the "remnant" and of the "other sheep," than anywhere else upon earth. World. It's the absolute best way to scam people I have yet seen. 16:5-7; 19:1, 2. They will then be part of the heavenly armies that will crush Gog and safeguard a great crowd of sheeplike ones. Choose your side, Slimboyfat, choose your side. Sure, 2035 will roll around and the world will still be kicking along and there will be fall out from another false prophesy but if you could increase the numbers from 7 million to 14 million, who cares if you lose even 25%. 16:16; ftn.) []. (see earlier thread) That is not so easy to call. On occasion, Jehovah directly intervened in those battles. Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. As she grew up as a third-generation Jehovah's Witness, there were certain things . 1993 3/22 Why So Many False Alarms? Certainly, I am not going to assign any meaning to this at all except to take the clear warning not to be like the people in the days of Noah and Lot and miss the signs leading up to the event that faced them. The present study of 50 Jehovah's Witnesses admitted to the Mental Health Service facilities of Western Australia suggests that members of this section of the community are more likely to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital than the general population. Either that or there is a contradiction between Matthew and Luke on this matter. Failed Watchtower date predictions and changed date doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, including lesser known ones such as 1799, 1844, 1874, 1878, 1918, 1920 and the 1940's. . And it is precisely because of societys great anxiety in tumultuous times that the Witnesses find such a fertile field for their hysterical, pseudo-prophetic speculations. 1:2-4) A key is to persevere in heartfelt prayer. We can benefit from this consideration. Copyright 2023 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. 5:31) At Armageddon, Gods enemies will likewise perish, while those who love God will be saved. Sure, they've had growth but its not translated into enough cash to keep the status quo. Eventually the governing body will stomach the idea of promoting 2034 as the possible date for the end (120 years from 1914 - 'just as the days of Noah will the days of the son of man be.'). Sadly, this trend is affecting Jehovah's Witnesses around the world. I was quite taken with this theory at the time, but of course 1999 came and went. It fit together so nicely. But, I am fearfully confident that many others will do so and this will be a question many will ask. 6 How will God defeat his enemies at Armageddon? But this lie will be especially dangerous because it will give people a false sense of security just before the greatest tribulation in human history begins. SONG 143 Keep Working, Watching, and Waiting. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. 2034,that would make my husband 84yrs old.But i thought it was any day now.Same crap,keep the flock in line with death threats no matter how long it takes. And you can tell when Armageddon is near when you see the things . (1John 2:3-5; 5:3) When we show that we know God, we have the honor of being known by him, which will be lifesaving at Armageddon! Pole. After all, she has long boasted: I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning.Rev. friends. 11 Replies 13. How may Jehovah defeat his enemies at Armageddon? Notice that Jesus did not liken his presence to the relatively short period of time during which the Flood occurred in Noah's day.
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