Winchester's 231 or WSL are also good powders for the .38 special. 5.) Hmm. They are low because of swaged bullets. ), I very much wanted to start with some tried-and-true Bullseye loads, but it took an epic scavenger hunt across many months to find a canister of the elusive classic. Just got back into reloading 38 special again after a long hiatus with no revolver, and was instantly reminded of what a joy it is to reload. Bullseye is a little smoky, a lot sooty, and has a distinct odor. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Vihtavuori, Winchester, Accurate Thanks for your help. Would .44 Special be somewhat similar to .38, in terms of ease of reloading, case life, etc.? I load a hard cast 125gn for my 38 special all the time. My best group was .9 inch out of a Model 15. Thanks for the start load Power Pistol will run lower pressures for the same velocity than W-W 231. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. 41 Rem Mag 35,000 Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Honestly, plated bullets won't give you the level of accuracy needed for bullseye competition, even at 25 yards. I can shoot this load at speeds I cant normally reach with .45. 2.) Totally agree. I also find the LCR .357 enjoyable to shoot with all .38s and most .357s. In a day you can make over 100,000 bullets. I miss those days. If all you practice with is the easy comfortable stuff, its not really practice. Unlike the author, I did *not* keep records, I cant even imagine how many rounds I loaded, almost 100% .357 magnum, since that was all I shot. 38 Special Loads for Bullseye by GerhardG Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:01 am Greetings, Looking for load suggestions for 38 special LSWC 158 grain SNS bullets, red coated based on the following powders; Bullseye, Unique, N310 and N320. The least is usually supplied as a large cylindrical billet weighing several hundred pounds. You may find it will need to be faster for good 50 yd. I load rounds for my wife to shoot @ Win 231 4.0 to 4.3 gr. 38 special , bullseye, and 125 grain lead rnfp Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting : The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and . How Do I Choose Good Self-Defense Ammo For My Handgun? Javascript is required. And Vihtavouris N320 and N321 fall in this range for burning times. The mild recoil of the mid-range load is a perfect mate to the .38s that most shooters own these daysthe airweight J-Frame or equivalent. swatmag.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Despite being well over one hundred years old, it still has perfect relevance for todays shooters, both novice and advanced. When you could leave city limits and just about every dirt mound in sight, was a plinking range. 3.) I started loading .38s with a Lyman nut cracker and a home made measure for Bullseye over 65 years ago. Going up to 3.9 Gr for +P. Case life is excellent, especially for mild loads. But for plinking, they'd be fine. Very little recoil, and grouped acceptably out to 15 yards or so. I reached an interesting number the other day. 32 H&R Mag 21,000 These are light and easy to shoot. You need a .357 Magnum revolver if you want to try a 9MM cylinder. This produces about 550-650fps from a 1 7/8 barrel and feels like shooting a very powerful .22LR. Nothing, they dont need any. I have some W231 that I use for my .38 super. Ask your Dealer, or call Hodgdon), has a Cowboy Load section, (near the center fold), that lists data for about all SASS calibers. This 1911 halved its normal so-so accuracy with 200-grain Hornady C/T SWC, shooting this nice two-inch group. 1995-2022. In the 1950s, 60s. ES 27 SD 12 Independence 130 grain FMJ round nose MV 892 fps ME 230 ft./lbs. Jacketed bullets are legal for DR, as long as they are 158 grain round nose or semi-wadcutter. Coming in 30 grains lighter and 80 fps slower than hardball, as well as being lead rather than jacketed, the 200/4.6 SWC is amazingly soft. 158 gr. That little 9 oz. Ive not had a handgun entirely reject either load, so the recipe seems to be a worthy third alongside the previous .38 and .45. Note the dark band of lube on the 3 lead bullets. Lord only knows how many cartridge cases I hammered with a plastic mallet into that Lee, it had to be thousands. Now, you have to go to a range or have a membership and pay to fill the backstop with lead. 38 special was also my first cartridge to reload, and one of my greatest loves for reloading to this day. Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. Powered by Invision Community, 125 grain plated flat point in 38 Special. Ive saved all my .38 brass over the last couple of years for whenever I find time to get into reloading. Thats a pretty clear explanation and comparison of the NEEDS of the strength of the chamber for each caliber. Be careful about published sources (and doubly so about internet sources), regarding maximum loads for the 38 special. Normal, mild .38 loads work fine with lead bullets. Many of these men had no real experience with the handgun, and we had but a few weeks to get them up to very high standards that most shooters will never reach. Modern .38 spl std HP load is more than enough, dont over think it. Dec 18, 2011. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. 125 gr plated or 125 gr lead RN. Agree Problem with the J frame S&W is the grips. A revolver shooting .38 SPL only requires the power of your finger to make it fire and can thus be loaded with ammo that is extremely mild or hotter than hot. DISTINGUISHED LOADS SUCK - Distinguished Revolver loads that don't suck? +P? Hornady A Tyler T grip would have helped here, but is incompatible w/ factory grips. The Model 19 is fine with .38s but mildly uncomfortable with .357s. Have you all found different seat depths to work better than what's in the manual? is a good place to start. Testing out some bullseye with 125 berry's bullets.. My sq. I just bought a Lyman mold 160 round nose with a crimp groove. Also, too light loads don't allow the bullet to seal the gases causing problems. Nitpicking is its own reward., I believe the correct spelling is loathe . Im also impressed by the apparent durability of your Airweight J-frame. You have never indicated what barrel length or brand or frame size you may be using these in. Notes: primer: CCI 500; case: Speer; NOTE: All loads are maximum. The floor does not apply for PPC, or the equivalent match for Action Pistol. What I have found most remarkable is how well some pistols that typically fling wide groups have clustered the semiwadcutters. Great gun with the best factory double action trigger Ive ever shot. Initially I shot them out of my Dads prized Smith & Wesson 686 and learned a great deal about double-action shooting and what a truly accurate handgun can do with a wadcutter. Display as a link instead, For 3 that actually doesnt kick too badly. That for just a nice shooting load one cant beat 148gr wad-cutter for pure fun. This load is in the general velocity bracket with most generic or bulk box 115-grain loads and zings over my chronograph at 1,125 to 1,140 fps from a Glock 17, depending on bullet style. Use data for weight. I had ammo for some friends as low as 600 fps. Since it hit the market 103 years ago, it has been a staple for most handloaders and the backbone of most accuracy loads in the popular calibers. Here's what the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook says for cast 125g flatpoint for 38 in the powders you mentioned. Handload: 158 grain round nose lead /3.8 grains Bullseye MV 775 fps ME 210 ft./lbs. It seems to burn completely in the .38 and is not as critical as the faster powders like Bullseye. While I do have a GP100 in .357 magnum, I dont like shooting .38 special ammo out of it, because cleaning powder residue out of the longer chambers is a real bitch. The upside of the grainage is that the small charges mean more loaded rounds per pound of powderhelpful since Bullseye can take a while to reacquire once the container is empty. I.E. Is it considered safe to down load a cartridge that far under starting? Wadcutters are tailor made for lightweight snubbie practice, allowing shooters to enjoy shooting the pocket guns. The trigger has smoothed out over time. THAT TIME IS BETTER SPENT LEARNING HOW TO SHOOT THE REVOLVER IN THE RAPID FIRE PORTION. I load these bullets to the edge of the shoulder and use anywhere from 3-4 grains of TB. The .44 spl. Reduce by 10% to establish a starting charge weight. This too is useful information. Interesting. I make a habit of counting the number of reloads I make by keeping a tally of primer and bullet boxes. What overal length of the cartridge? I did find a 145 grain Lead HP with a rounded ogive (like the last NyClad) on Gunbroker that opens really well if you get above 800 fps. I have not loaded plated bullets in quite some time, since they are not useful for my accuracy needs. I used to reload .38s and .357s with 158 grain LSWC bullets over 4.3 and 6.5 grains of Unique. My hand ached for a week. Youre describing Remington Multiball ammunition (R357MB)- I used to carry that stuff decades ago. RN, 160 gr. Would you like to react to this message? 4.) in a belt holster at 4:00. each bullet is different for oal due to a crimp groove on most. Something like the Ruger GP100 or S&W 686 yup, theyre the best caliber for those size revolvers. Depends on what kind of load you're after. Traditionally, the max SAAMI pressures were: 38 S&W 14,500 Ive done the majority of shooting in .38 Special in my Smith & Wesson 642. Not in that order. Thanks for the excellent article, Josh! I don't have a chronograph, but have considered picking one up. Even though the gun was chambered for .357 Magnum, I plinked and practiced with a lot of .38s over the years. Do not use anything but light loads and lead bullets in these older revolvers. Replaced w/ Altamont laminated wood, and later w/ open- back Pachmayrs- the less-pronounced finger grooves fit me better. Berry says load plated bullets to mid-range jacketed bullets of same profile and weight or equal to hard cast. The Bullseye powder pushed five into two inches flat for another 1911 that is typically a four-inch gun. Ive been looking for a reason to get into reloading, and am particularly intrigued by the extremely long case life of .38 Special. For those who have issues using auto pistils, due ti arthritis or other medical issues with the hands an LCR or 642 is a great choice. I did 400 rounds in one afternoon on my Hornady progressive. Between that, some other info on other forums, Winchester's data for a lead flat point, and numbers from loaddata.com, I think I have some to start with. Bullseye Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. Main fame for the .38 is now the J frame size revolvers, as a CCW gun. I've tried Berry's plated as well as Remington. And I still think a 158 at 600 beats hell out of a 22 magnum of any stripe. Thank you. Recoil is the good kind that reminds the shooter handguns are serious tools but without eliciting a flinch. Does anyone have experience with loading WST for 125 gr plates bullets or a place to start the research/testing? She ran two cylinders of 100 grain wad cutters and gave it back to me. 38 special is a great cartridge. WITH THE SWAGED BULLETS REDDING SELLS A PROFILE CRIMP DIE. Any pistol competitions yet? Accurate's No. Different colors can be used to identify different loads and since bottom of each bullet is also powder coated, there is less lead dispersed in the air at the shooting range. https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck?highlight=distinguished+++%2Bloads, Load question on Penn Bullets for Distinguished load. When using a 158 gr. No matter where you look, the first mention in classic loads for the .38 Special is a 148-grain wadcutter over 2.7 grains of Bullseye. Last I looked still available at Brownells. Thinking of using it in NRA Action pistol or PPC. of Bullseye, 148 gr lead DEWC and Federal 100 primers. Also internet references 2009, Copyright. Pasted as rich text. Anything goes with bullets. You may end up with one "not" clearing the barrel. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges you'd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. Forget about it. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. ES 56 SD 24 PMC Eldorado Starfire +P 125 gr. The fast powders, W231, HP38, Bullseye would go over pressure very quickly with any slight changes, in seating depth or primer change.
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